So, I just had lunch on the costs of Mayflower. Lunch is perhaps a little too much said, but in this heat I can't eat much more than some bread - actually this was my breakfast. The other guys ate some steak with potatoes and stuff, too much for me!

I met the Mayflower boss at ThinkPHP and then johann__ came with some Papaya guy there. Papaya is a CMS his company made GPL two days ago. Let's all wish him good luck, that it'll work out! It was very interesting to hear, what they all got to say about running such companies... ;)